Comments for John Robert Lucas, author of Temple Builders prophetic books and articles http://johnrobertlucas.com Prophetic blog site for John Robert Lucas, author of Temple Builders books and articles. John Robert Lucas teached the prophetic in an atypical way, redefining what the prophetic is. Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:46:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by John Robert Lucas http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-122 John Robert Lucas Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:46:03 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-122 Sounds like you are making a sound response. I will remove the article. I in no way want to malign what you are saying. I must have misunderstood. But as I recall, others misunderstood as well. Sounds like you are making a sound response. I will remove the article. I in no way want to malign what you are saying. I must have misunderstood. But as I recall, others misunderstood as well.

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by Paul Ellis http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-121 Paul Ellis Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:37:58 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-121 Pretty much every single claim you attribute to me is factually incorrect, but hey, nothing like a good straw man demolition job. Contrary to your tone, I am actually a big believer in repentance. As I say in the post: "Should you repent? Of course! I actually think there needs to be far more repentance, particularly from believers." I am also 100% opposed to sin. The point that I evidently failed to make in the post is that you don't get people to turn from sin by telling them to "turn from sin" - that's old covenant thinking and a flesh-trip. Live like that and you'll end up either proud or condemned. The cure to sin is not your futile efforts at self-improvement, but Jesus and His finished work. It is grace alone that empowers us to say no to ungodliness. Pretty much every single claim you attribute to me is factually incorrect, but hey, nothing like a good straw man demolition job. Contrary to your tone, I am actually a big believer in repentance. As I say in the post: “Should you repent? Of course! I actually think there needs to be far more repentance, particularly from believers.” I am also 100% opposed to sin. The point that I evidently failed to make in the post is that you don’t get people to turn from sin by telling them to “turn from sin” – that’s old covenant thinking and a flesh-trip. Live like that and you’ll end up either proud or condemned. The cure to sin is not your futile efforts at self-improvement, but Jesus and His finished work. It is grace alone that empowers us to say no to ungodliness.

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by John Robert Lucas http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-120 John Robert Lucas Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:15:02 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-120 Please point out the errors and I will fix or remove. I also based the work on responses/reviews you received from other readers. You may have a perception issue if you are saying this is factually off. I have no axe to grind here and have no issue revising or deleting the entire article. John Robert Lucas Please point out the errors and I will fix or remove. I also based the work on responses/reviews you received from other readers. You may have a perception issue if you are saying this is factually off.

I have no axe to grind here and have no issue revising or deleting the entire article.

John Robert Lucas

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by Paul Ellis http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-119 Paul Ellis Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:51:16 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-119 Dear John, Thank you for drawing your readers' attention to my writings. I wonder if it would be too much to ask if you could include a link back to my original post. This would give your readers a chance to see for themselves whether I say even half the things you claim I do. Dear John,
Thank you for drawing your readers’ attention to my writings. I wonder if it would be too much to ask if you could include a link back to my original post. This would give your readers a chance to see for themselves whether I say even half the things you claim I do.

]]> Comment on What is the “Finished Work” or “Grace” message? by Antonio black http://johnrobertlucas.com/temple-builders-blog/finished-work-message.html#comment-76 Antonio black Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:06:06 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=25#comment-76 Thank you for being bold, clear, and compassionate. I will research more of your works. I find myself having more and more questions...after I have read the answers that are easily accessible. thanks again. Thank you for being bold, clear, and compassionate. I will research more of your works. I find myself having more and more questions…after I have read the answers that are easily accessible. thanks again.

]]> Comment on Profile for John Robert Lucas by Julie Cull http://johnrobertlucas.com/john-robert-lucas#comment-55 Julie Cull Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:11:50 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?page_id=2#comment-55 Pastor Lucus, I have some questions about your affiliation with the business sector and being a minister. I am not on facebook but would like an email that I could ask you my questions. Thanks. Pastor Lucus, I have some questions about your affiliation with the business sector and being a minister. I am not on facebook but would like an email that I could ask you my questions. Thanks.

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by Akindele Opeyemi http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-25 Akindele Opeyemi Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:22:04 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-25 I believe it's part of Satan's ploy to keep the Church in bondage to spiritual immaturity because until our foundations are well laid...which includes REpentance from dead works, we can't go on to perfection. We will not be able to run the race set before us because of weights and sin that will so easily beset us. I believe it’s part of Satan’s ploy to keep the Church in bondage to spiritual immaturity because until our foundations are well laid…which includes REpentance from dead works, we can’t go on to perfection. We will not be able to run the race set before us because of weights and sin that will so easily beset us.

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by John Robert Lucas http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-22 John Robert Lucas Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:25:29 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-22 These new grace teachers really do not understand grace at all; nor do they understand law. I have watched others try to reason with the teachers and their followers, but every attempt is useless. Andrew Farley is another prevalent teacher of this type of grace message. You are right, though, it is a death trap, and a slippery slope. Another thing that is noticable in all of them is that they are so preoccupied with trying to reinvent the foundational doctrines that they never have time to teach the more mature ways of the Lord. Pity. These new grace teachers really do not understand grace at all; nor do they understand law. I have watched others try to reason with the teachers and their followers, but every attempt is useless.

Andrew Farley is another prevalent teacher of this type of grace message. You are right, though, it is a death trap, and a slippery slope.

Another thing that is noticable in all of them is that they are so preoccupied with trying to reinvent the foundational doctrines that they never have time to teach the more mature ways of the Lord. Pity.

]]> Comment on Grace Gone Too Far – Repentance De-emphasized by Akindele Opeyemi http://johnrobertlucas.com/blog-article/grace-repentance-de-emphasized.html#comment-21 Akindele Opeyemi Sat, 03 Dec 2011 20:50:21 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=42#comment-21 Thanx so mch Sir for this word..and warning. Such teachings are really a 'death trap'. True grace really teaches to '...DENY ungodliness and worldly lusts...' Thanx so mch Sir for this word..and warning. Such teachings are really a ‘death trap’. True grace really teaches to ‘…DENY ungodliness and worldly lusts…’

]]> Comment on What does the Term Prophetic Mean? by Janet Williams http://johnrobertlucas.com/temple-builders-blog/prophetic-definition.html#comment-3 Janet Williams Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:36:29 +0000 http://johnrobertlucas.com/?p=37#comment-3 Thanks John, Excellent explanation. The word "character" keeps coming up over and over in the things the Holy Spirit is leading me to . Building Godly character, I'm finding, is just like you said... "God has us go through dry spells where our words drop to the ground in lieu of a character building lesson. And we do not get back a present truth message or fresh manna until we learn it. And, usually, the lesson grinds you into the earth. Sorry, but that is God’s reality." I'm not ashamed to say, that there are some character issues being worked out in my life right now. I'm thankful that I am loved so much by God that He doesn't want me to stay the way I was. He is working with His clay. Thanks John,
Excellent explanation. The word “character” keeps coming up over and over in the things the Holy Spirit is leading me to . Building Godly character, I’m finding, is just like you said…

“God has us go through dry spells where our words drop to the ground in lieu of a character building lesson. And we do not get back a present truth message or fresh manna until we learn it. And, usually, the lesson grinds you into the earth. Sorry, but that is God’s reality.”

I’m not ashamed to say, that there are some character issues being worked out in my life right now. I’m thankful that I am loved so much by God that He doesn’t want me to stay the way I was. He is working with His clay.

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